Air France A340 av rullebanen i Toronto
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Fra de foreløbige meldinger lyder det som om den besætning har vidst hvad de gjorde.
JP i Danamrk har en underlig formulering omkring antallet ombord: "Flyet havde 297 mennesker og 12 besætningsmedlemmer om bord.
så crew er ikke mennesker??? I såfald er det så aliens eller aber???
JP i Danamrk har en underlig formulering omkring antallet ombord: "Flyet havde 297 mennesker og 12 besætningsmedlemmer om bord.
så crew er ikke mennesker??? I såfald er det så aliens eller aber???
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Og her er hva nyhetsbyrået AFP sendte ut i formiddag:
Air France jet crashes and explodes but all 309 aboard make
'miracle' escape
by Philippe Sauvagnargues
(PICTURE)
ATTENTION - RECASTS ///
TORONTO, Aug 3 (AFP) - An Air France A340 jet with 309 people
aboard overshot the runway at Toronto international airport and
burst into flames after plunging into a muddy ravine, but with
flames licking around the fuselage and smoke filling the cabin all
passengers and crew managed to make a desperate escape.
Officials said 43 people were treated for minor injuries, and
Canadian Transport minister Jean Lapierre described the escape as a
"miracle."
It was the first crash involving the Airbus long-haul jet in 13
years of commercial service.
Descending in blustery winds and thundery skies after a non-stop
flight from Paris, the plane touched down as passengers applauded,
but then there was a loud jolt and the aircraft ran 200 meters (660
feet) past the end of the runway and plowed into the wooded gulley.
Within seconds, passengers dived down down emergency chutes and
dashed for safety shortly before the wreckage was engulfed in
enormous fireballs.
"As soon as the plane stopped, they immediately opened the side
of the plane where they couldn't see any flames, and then they told
us to jump," said passenger Olivier Dubois. "And we all began
jumping and running. We were running really fast... It was really,
really scary. Very, very scary."
French and Canadian accident investigators Wednesday were to
seek the cause of the crash after what appeared to be an uneventful
landing. Some passengers said it appeared the jet had been struck by
lightning, but a spokesman for Airbus said that for the moment this
was only speculation.
Passengers told how they saw lightning flashes around them as
the jet came in to land in a heavy storm.
"I saw lightning," said one passenger, Roel Bramar. "Maybe the
plane had already been hit by lightning. The reason I'm mentioning
that is because just as we landed, the lights turned off. And that's
unusual. So I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible."
Another passenger, journalist Gilles Medioni, said that when the
plane touched down "a lot of people clapped their hands, but it was
a little premature. The pilot tried to put the brakes on, but he
never made it. Then the plane began to lurch and bump. People began
to scream and sense the plane was about to crash."
"Everything was happening very quickly," Medioni said. "People
got up from their seats. There was a smell of smoke, of kerosene and
people looked for the emergency exits."
The plane came to rest on wooded land close to Canada's busiest
highway in the middle of the evening rush hour Tuesday. Buffeted by
strong wind and heavy rain, passengers struggled through mud to the
highway where many were picked up by passing motorists.
One witness on the ground, Corey Marks, saw the plane come in.
"Everything looked and sounded good. It hit the runway nice and all
of a sudden, we heard his engines backing up."
Marks added that the jet "went straight into the valley and
cracked in half."
"Two of us that were standing here, we were about to run over
and try to help, but it went up in such flames."
Air France's director general Jean-Francois Colin praised the
crew for marshalling the quick evacuation.
"Air France pays homage to the crew, who thanks to their sang
froid and professionalism prevented this air catastrophe from
turning into a tragedy," he said in Paris.
Flight 358 was a relatively new plane that went into service in
1999 and was fully inspected on July 5, Air France said.
Although two of the four-engined jets have been destroyed on the
ground with no loss of life, this was the first operational accident
for the aircraft, which is considered to have an excellent safety
record.
The A340-300 of the type that crashed in Toronto can fly
non-stop for more than 6,700 nautical miles (12,400 kilometers).
bur/ps/bj
AFP
030909 GMT AUG 05
Air France jet crashes and explodes but all 309 aboard make
'miracle' escape
by Philippe Sauvagnargues
(PICTURE)
ATTENTION - RECASTS ///
TORONTO, Aug 3 (AFP) - An Air France A340 jet with 309 people
aboard overshot the runway at Toronto international airport and
burst into flames after plunging into a muddy ravine, but with
flames licking around the fuselage and smoke filling the cabin all
passengers and crew managed to make a desperate escape.
Officials said 43 people were treated for minor injuries, and
Canadian Transport minister Jean Lapierre described the escape as a
"miracle."
It was the first crash involving the Airbus long-haul jet in 13
years of commercial service.
Descending in blustery winds and thundery skies after a non-stop
flight from Paris, the plane touched down as passengers applauded,
but then there was a loud jolt and the aircraft ran 200 meters (660
feet) past the end of the runway and plowed into the wooded gulley.
Within seconds, passengers dived down down emergency chutes and
dashed for safety shortly before the wreckage was engulfed in
enormous fireballs.
"As soon as the plane stopped, they immediately opened the side
of the plane where they couldn't see any flames, and then they told
us to jump," said passenger Olivier Dubois. "And we all began
jumping and running. We were running really fast... It was really,
really scary. Very, very scary."
French and Canadian accident investigators Wednesday were to
seek the cause of the crash after what appeared to be an uneventful
landing. Some passengers said it appeared the jet had been struck by
lightning, but a spokesman for Airbus said that for the moment this
was only speculation.
Passengers told how they saw lightning flashes around them as
the jet came in to land in a heavy storm.
"I saw lightning," said one passenger, Roel Bramar. "Maybe the
plane had already been hit by lightning. The reason I'm mentioning
that is because just as we landed, the lights turned off. And that's
unusual. So I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible."
Another passenger, journalist Gilles Medioni, said that when the
plane touched down "a lot of people clapped their hands, but it was
a little premature. The pilot tried to put the brakes on, but he
never made it. Then the plane began to lurch and bump. People began
to scream and sense the plane was about to crash."
"Everything was happening very quickly," Medioni said. "People
got up from their seats. There was a smell of smoke, of kerosene and
people looked for the emergency exits."
The plane came to rest on wooded land close to Canada's busiest
highway in the middle of the evening rush hour Tuesday. Buffeted by
strong wind and heavy rain, passengers struggled through mud to the
highway where many were picked up by passing motorists.
One witness on the ground, Corey Marks, saw the plane come in.
"Everything looked and sounded good. It hit the runway nice and all
of a sudden, we heard his engines backing up."
Marks added that the jet "went straight into the valley and
cracked in half."
"Two of us that were standing here, we were about to run over
and try to help, but it went up in such flames."
Air France's director general Jean-Francois Colin praised the
crew for marshalling the quick evacuation.
"Air France pays homage to the crew, who thanks to their sang
froid and professionalism prevented this air catastrophe from
turning into a tragedy," he said in Paris.
Flight 358 was a relatively new plane that went into service in
1999 and was fully inspected on July 5, Air France said.
Although two of the four-engined jets have been destroyed on the
ground with no loss of life, this was the first operational accident
for the aircraft, which is considered to have an excellent safety
record.
The A340-300 of the type that crashed in Toronto can fly
non-stop for more than 6,700 nautical miles (12,400 kilometers).
bur/ps/bj
AFP
030909 GMT AUG 05
bu 4233
Newcomer
Press release
Flight AF358, August 2, 2005
Statement by Mr Jean-François Colin, Air France Senior Executive Vice President
Roissy, August 3, 2005
As you know, Air France has just experienced a serious accident.
Flight AF 358 carrying 297 passengers and 12 crew members left Paris-Charles de Gaulle at 1.32 PM local time. At 10.10 PM Paris time, while landing at Toronto’ Pearson Airport, the airplane skipped off the runway and then burst into flames.
There are no fatalities. All passengers and crew members were able to clear the aircraft before the fire broke out. Twenty two passengers suffering minor injuries are treated in five area hospitals.
Air France has established a passenger information centre and a number is available for family or friends of those who may have been on board flight AF 358 :
- for those calling from France : 0 800 800 812
- for those calling from outside : + 33 1 56 93 10 00
Air France is providing whatever material and psychological assistance to passengers who might need it.
Of course, as soon as possible, Air France will provide the transportation back home to those who want it. Beside, Air France will naturally compensate every passenger.
At the present time, it is too early to evocate the reasons of that accident. The different investigations that will be led will precise its causes.
The aircraft, an Airbus A340, registered F-GLZQ was received by the Company on September 7, 1999. The jet logged 28.418 flight hours and 3.711 take-offs and landings. The last maintenance check occurred on July 5 2005, at Charles de Gaulle Airport.
The two pilots in command and the cabin crew were Air France experienced staff.
The 57-year-old Captain joined the Company in 1982 and logged more than 15.000 flight hours, including 1.800 on Airbus A340.
The 43-year-old first officer joined Air France in 1985 and logged 10.700 flight hours, 2.500 of which were on Airbus A340.
Air France is paying homage to the entire crew : to the Captain, to the First Officer and to the cabin crew. Their calm and professionalism have prevented a drama.
Before being hospitalised, the first officer made a last check around the aircraft to make sure that no passengers remained on board.
Chairman Spinetta and the entire airline staff express solidarity to passengers and their relatives.
Flight AF358, August 2, 2005
Press release
Roissy, August 3, 2005, 01.00 am
Air France flight AF358 flying from Paris had an accident while landing at Toronto Pearson airport. The aircraft, an Airbus A-340 carried 297 passengers and 12 crewmembers that were all safely evacuated. According to our information there are no fatalities. 22 persons suffered minor injuries and are now being treated in different hospitals around Toronto.
Air France undertakes to take care of the passengers of this flight and provide assistance to relatives and families. A toll-free number is made available for them.
In Canada : 011 33 1 56 93 10 00
In France: 0 800 800 812
Press department
Roissy CDG Cedex
Tel: 011 33 1 41 56 56 00
Fax : 011 33 1 41 56 84 19
"Air France is paying homage to the entire crew"
hva er det?
hva er det?
dc-8-63
Finn Erik Edvardsen
...uten aa tidligere ha fremstaatt som noen stor Airbus Fan...maa jeg si at denne ulykken ogsaa viser at dette er et meget godt konstruert fly. Om man tar utgangspunkt i det oeyeblikket flyet forlot rullebanen, gikk vel allt etter "oppskriften":
- Alle doerer og Noedutganger maa ha fungert perfekt, til tross for at flyet hadde brukket i 2 og maa ha hatt strukturelle skader.
- Bruk av materiale som hindrer brann(allt brenner til slutt) gav besetningen nok tid til aa faa alle ut, foer brannen overtok.
- Det er ogsaa et klart at gode standarder og meget god trening av besetning gjorde sin del av jobben. Jeg leste paa Airliners.net at de ansatte hos BA paa Pearson samlet inn peneger og kjoepte blomster til hele AF besetningen , som en kollegial takk for en jobb vel utfoert.
Naar det gjelder hva som skjedde mens maskinen ennaa var paa rullebanen, saa er det vel flere parareller til SK901 paa JFK og AA i Little Rock enn Delta i DFW. Et annet innlegg paa Airliners.net var fra en spotter som stod i andre enden av rullebanen i haap om aa faa tatt et bilde av en Saudi 747SP. Han skrev at 3 fly landet rett foer AF, uten problemer, men at uvaeret virkelig broet ut i det AF landet.
- Alle doerer og Noedutganger maa ha fungert perfekt, til tross for at flyet hadde brukket i 2 og maa ha hatt strukturelle skader.
- Bruk av materiale som hindrer brann(allt brenner til slutt) gav besetningen nok tid til aa faa alle ut, foer brannen overtok.
- Det er ogsaa et klart at gode standarder og meget god trening av besetning gjorde sin del av jobben. Jeg leste paa Airliners.net at de ansatte hos BA paa Pearson samlet inn peneger og kjoepte blomster til hele AF besetningen , som en kollegial takk for en jobb vel utfoert.
Naar det gjelder hva som skjedde mens maskinen ennaa var paa rullebanen, saa er det vel flere parareller til SK901 paa JFK og AA i Little Rock enn Delta i DFW. Et annet innlegg paa Airliners.net var fra en spotter som stod i andre enden av rullebanen i haap om aa faa tatt et bilde av en Saudi 747SP. Han skrev at 3 fly landet rett foer AF, uten problemer, men at uvaeret virkelig broet ut i det AF landet.
Min far og jeg satt på bakken i en AC 767 i nesten tre timer for noen år siden. Fra vi ble pushet ut og til vi nærmet oss rullebanen endret været seg såpass (det åpnet seg der oppe) at vi fikk beskjed om å vente med å ta av... Det samme skjedde tydligvis i går - fly fikk lande men ikke ta av...
Veldig hyggelig å lese om reaksjonene til de ansatte i BA!!!:devot:
Veldig hyggelig å lese om reaksjonene til de ansatte i BA!!!:devot:
Såvidt jeg forstår var grunnen til at det gikk så bra som det gjorde at man rakk å evakuere flyet før brannen spredte seg til selve flykroppen. (det brant visstnok på den ene vingen, ettersom de bare brukte utgangene på den ene siden). Dette viser jo hvor viktig det er med mange nødutganger og at 90 sekundersregelen har livets rett.
All ære til redningstjenestw, pax og ikke minst crewet! (men i motsetning til EB tror jeg ikke alderen på kabinmedlemmene har noen betydning, de fleste bruker vel en miks av unge og eldre, det har nok mere med kvaliteten på opplæringen å gjøre.)
All ære til redningstjenestw, pax og ikke minst crewet! (men i motsetning til EB tror jeg ikke alderen på kabinmedlemmene har noen betydning, de fleste bruker vel en miks av unge og eldre, det har nok mere med kvaliteten på opplæringen å gjøre.)
