United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Han sier også rett ut at det var siste gang de ville bruke politi for å fjerne en betalene passasjer.

Det er tullprat, siden han ikke kan gi noen slik garanti.
 
Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

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Han sier også rett ut at det var siste gang de ville bruke politi for å fjerne en betalene passasjer.

Det brukes stadig politi for å fjerne passasjerer fra fly, hver dag og mange ganger per dag og de gjør en bra jobb.
Hvis Munoz isteden skal bruke flyvertinnene, eller ansette Rambo så blir det sikkert ikke bedre, men langt verre.
Munoz er dr!tnervøs hver gang han åpner kjeften og aner ikke hva han prater om.
Slett ikke en leder, men heller en tom dress (empty suit) som bare lager støy.
Vedder på at han blir borte vekk i nærmeste fremtid, mange i toppjobbene som kommer og går uten å gjøre annet enn å tråkke på snabelen sin:(
 
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Flere medier melder om at Delta kan tilby passasjerer opptil 9950 dollar for "denied boarding". Dette er en kraftig økning fra supervisors tidligere maksiumum på 1350 USD. Det er vel kun snakk unntak her, men jeg lurer på om det er så smart å gå ut med en slik sum i media. Det kan bli noen interessante scener: " I want 10 000 dollars to give up my seat, I know you can offer me that much".

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-delta-volunteer-offer-20170414-story.html
 
Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Flere medier melder om at Delta kan tilby passasjerer opptil 9950 dollar for "denied boarding". Dette er en kraftig økning fra supervisors tidligere maksiumum på 1350 USD. Det er vel kun snakk unntak her, men jeg lurer på om det er så smart å gå ut med en slik sum i media. Det kan bli noen interessante scener: " I want 10 000 dollars to give up my seat, I know you can offer me that much".

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-delta-volunteer-offer-20170414-story.html

Den hadde jeg tatt nesten uansett :D
Men finnes det ikke noen lover om dette i USA som i Europa? Et slags minimum? Eller er det faktisk opp til selskapene?
 
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Den hadde jeg tatt nesten uansett :D
Men finnes det ikke noen lover om dette i USA som i Europa? Et slags minimum? Eller er det faktisk opp til selskapene?

Det er minimum I USA, tror det er snakk om 4 x bilett prisen, og det er visst Max påkrevet av myndighetene på $1 350 daler, men Munoz og slike kan vel gå over så mye de vil.
Når det blir 2 000 daler per snute, plus hotel og ny bilett på neste fly så løsner deg nok et skred av frivillige. For de flest Yanks så er 2 000 daler en halv månedslønn.
Det blir aldri problemer å fjerne folk, alle kan kjøpes, inkludert undertegnende, vi har alle en pris.
 
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Dette er visstnok skrevet av et crew på flyet:
 

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Da kommer det endelig noe fornuftig fra UA.

Effective immediately, Crew Scheduling is now only able to make must-ride deadhead bookings on oversold flights if it is 60 minutes or more before the estimate time of departure.

This is so the denied boarding process in an oversell situation may be implemented in a gate or lobby area and not on board the aircraft.

If you do not have a reservation for your deadhead segment and it is within the 60-minute window before departure, contact Crew Scheduling and they will book you on the next available flight.

There will be no deviation from the policy above.
This policy change has no impact on existing crew check-in times.
No must ride crew member can displace a customer who has boarded an aircraft

This new Scheduling Alert is also available on the United News app and on Flying Together. Ensure you are familiar with this content prior to your next trip.

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...mployees-passengers-within-60-minutes-flight/
 
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Ja, litt mere fornuft.
Har selv vært i lignende situasjon hvor jeg måtte reise for å berge en flight down-line og dem måtte sparke av betalende pax for å lempe oss på.
Samme som UA, det står i kontrakten vår med bolaget at vi skal ikke reise på klappsete, men gjør det gjerne hvis det skal til, det er dog "ulovlig" i henhold til avtalen som var signert av begge parter. Derfor er det ikke anledning til å være fleksibel.
De fleste Amerikanske selskaper har mange i Flight Ops fra militæret, derfor er det svart eller hvit, man kan ikke bryte en regel bare for å få hjulene til å gå rundt. Jo større selskaper, jo mindre fleksibel er dem, alt går etter boka, for den er bibelen . :angry:
 
Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Når rett skal være rett så var ikke dette et United fly
men Republic Airlines (og crew) som flyr regionalt for United.
God og nøytral diskusjon om emne fra Captain Jeff (Delta),Dana (Delta),Nick Anderson (Virgin Atlantic) og Doktor Steph.

Hopp til 1time,14min i video under.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6kErRk9ucs
 
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April 27, 2017



Letter to Sales Customers - United Customer Experience Improvements



To all of our Sales customers,

You’ve chosen United for your business travel, and we don’t take that decision lightly. Each time you and your travelers fly with us we’re making an important promise – that we will treat you with the highest level of service and the deepest sense of dignity and respect. Your satisfaction and trust is at the center of everything we do, and your collective opinion of our service is the measure of our success.

Earlier this month we broke that trust. Corporate policies were placed ahead of our shared values and procedures got in the way of employees doing what they know is right. We can never say we are sorry enough for the way one of our customers was treated that day and for the response that followed. Additionally, as United Sales clients, we know we have put you in the difficult position of answering to your travelers and other stakeholders, and we apologize for that.

For the past several weeks, we have been diligently working to determine how this happened and how we can do our best to ensure it never happens again. This situation has provided invaluable learning experiences from which we have taken immediate, concrete action. These meaningful actions will speak louder than words, and we have announced a series of changes to how we fly, serve and respect our customers. Click here to review them.

We know we need to work harder than ever to put our customers at the center of everything we do, and our 87,000 employees have taken this message to heart. As a Sales team and as a company, we are as energized as ever to fulfill our promise to serve you better and always be the customer-focused airline you deserve.

Thank you for your business and thank you for granting us the opportunity to re-earn your trust.

Sincerely,





Dave Hilfman
Senior Vice President - Worldwide Sales





Jake Cefolia
Vice President - Americas Sales





Marcel Fuchs
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Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Da fikk jeg brev fra Oscar, gitt!

Dear Mr Mowinckel,

Each flight you take with us represents an important promise we make to you, our customer. It's not simply that we make sure you reach your destination safely and on time, but also that you will be treated with the highest level of service and the deepest sense of dignity and respect.
Earlier this month, we broke that trust when a passenger was forcibly removed from one of our planes. We can never say we are sorry enough for what occurred, but we also know meaningful actions will speak louder than words.
For the past several weeks, we have been urgently working to answer two questions: How did this happen, and how can we do our best to ensure this never happens again?
It happened because our corporate policies were placed ahead of our shared values. Our procedures got in the way of our employees doing what they know is right.
Fixing that problem starts now with changing how we fly, serve and respect our customers. This is a turning point for all of us here at United – and as CEO, it's my responsibility to make sure that we learn from this experience and redouble our efforts to put our customers at the center of everything we do.
That’s why we announced that we will no longer ask law enforcement to remove customers from a flight and customers will not be required to give up their seat once on board – except in matters of safety or security.
We also know that despite our best efforts, when things don’t go the way they should, we need to be there for you to make things right. There are several new ways we’re going to do just that.
We will increase incentives for voluntary rebooking up to $10,000 and will be eliminating the red tape on permanently lost bags with a new "no-questions-asked" $1,500 reimbursement policy. We will also be rolling out a new app for our employees that will enable them to provide on-the-spot goodwill gestures in the form of miles, travel credit and other amenities when your experience with us misses the mark. You can learn more about these commitments and many other changes at hub.united.com.
While these actions are important, I have found myself reflecting more broadly on the role we play and the responsibilities we have to you and the communities we serve.
I believe we must go further in redefining what United's corporate citizenship looks like in our society. You can and ought to expect more from us, and we intend to live up to those higher expectations in the way we embody social responsibility and civic leadership everywhere we operate. I hope you will see that pledge express itself in our actions going forward, of which these initial, though important, changes are merely a first step.
Our goal should be nothing less than to make you truly proud to say, "I fly United."
Ultimately, the measure of our success is your satisfaction and the past several weeks have moved us to go further than ever before in elevating your experience with us. I know our 87,000 employees have taken this message to heart, and they are as energized as ever to fulfill our promise to serve you better with each flight and earn the trust you’ve given us.
We are working harder than ever for the privilege to serve you and I know we will be stronger, better and the customer-focused airline you expect and deserve.

With Great Gratitude,
Oscar Munoz
CEO
United Airlines
 
Re: United bruker politi for å kaste passasjer ut av fly pga. overbooking

Blowing smoke again.
Hopefully not up your arse Mr. Mowinckel? :colgate:
 
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