Pilot/flyger

Ja. Og hvis ikke yrket skal bli for single under 25, må bransjen generelt gjøre noe med vilkårene.

Ja, vilkårene i Europa er mange hakk under det vi har i USA. Antall fridager jeg far er ikke universalt, jeg har mye ansiennitet i setet mitt. Som junior lineholder så er det vel 14-15 dager fri.
Dette pga mindre flytid per dag.
 
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Det er jo av enkelte blitt hevdet at piloter er glorifiserte bussjåfører. For kyndige her på forumet: hva tenker dere om denne sammenlikningen? For meg fremstår de to yrkene som lite hensiktsmessige å sammenlikne, og at den eneste likheten er at man forflytter passasjerer fra A til B.
 
Det er jo av enkelte blitt hevdet at piloter er glorifiserte bussjåfører. For kyndige her på forumet: hva tenker dere om denne sammenlikningen? For meg fremstår de to yrkene som lite hensiktsmessige å sammenlikne, og at den eneste likheten er at man forflytter passasjerer fra A til B.
Det som er moro er jo at en av de som liker den påstanden gikk på flyskole selv og fortalte om det her. Ellers er det de som mener utdannelsen er unødvendig, siden de kan google seg til bedre kunnskaper.
For de på forumet som flyr så spiller det ingen rolle hva andre mener, og om det er viktig for deg, så bør du nok finne noe annet.
Det har aldri vært bedre tider for en flyutdannelse enn nå. Fortsatt et stort skritt økonomisk, men gode muligheter i fremtiden og få igjen for investeringen. Jeg mener det blir mangel på folk i Europa fremover, men det er vel andre som har mer peiling på det enn meg.
 
Det som er moro er jo at en av de som liker den påstanden gikk på flyskole selv og fortalte om det her. Ellers er det de som mener utdannelsen er unødvendig, siden de kan google seg til bedre kunnskaper.
For de på forumet som flyr så spiller det ingen rolle hva andre mener, og om det er viktig for deg, så bør du nok finne noe annet.
Det har aldri vært bedre tider for en flyutdannelse enn nå. Fortsatt et stort skritt økonomisk, men gode muligheter i fremtiden og få igjen for investeringen. Jeg mener det blir mangel på folk i Europa fremover, men det er vel andre som har mer peiling på det enn meg.

Det er allerede desperat mangel på ERFARNE piloter her, men diverse kreative løsninger og mangelfullt lovverk osv, gjør at selskapene klarer seg foreløpig. Men Europa er nok omtrent der USA var pre-Colgan i 2009 nå.
 
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For min del ser det ut som om pilotyrket også i 2025 klarer å bevare noe av statusen - det er fortsatt noe stas ved det. Noe av forklaringen kan muligens ligge i at det å fly alltid vil være noe spesielt - på tross av at det nå er like normalt i dag som å ta bussen og toget - mer eller mindre. Hva tenker dere er de største forskjellene på å være pilot og lokfører? Utdannelse/ansvar? Selve utdannelsen for å bli pilot tar vel omkring to år, lokfører ett år? Statusen har jo historisk vært lav for lokføreryrket i forhold til det å være pilot.
 
For min del ser det ut som om pilotyrket også i 2025 klarer å bevare noe av statusen - det er fortsatt noe stas ved det. Noe av forklaringen kan muligens ligge i at det å fly alltid vil være noe spesielt - på tross av at det nå er like normalt i dag som å ta bussen og toget - mer eller mindre. Hva tenker dere er de største forskjellene på å være pilot og lokfører? Utdannelse/ansvar? Selve utdannelsen for å bli pilot tar vel omkring to år, lokfører ett år? Statusen har jo historisk vært lav for lokføreryrket i forhold til det å være pilot.

Drømmejobben er Navigatør på jernbanen.
 
Kan kopiere deepseek.
Man får faktisk betalt når toget står feks.

Vet ikke om vy go ahead er bedre enn de fleste lavkostselskaper men vil tro det.
Lang tråd her. men vet ikke om nåløyet er like trangt på begge utdanningene.


https://www.diskusjon.no/topic/822553-noen-p%C3%A5-jernbaneskolen-her/page/188/#comments

Both train drivers (locomotive engineers) and pilots (airline or commercial pilots) are highly respected professions with unique challenges and rewards. The "best" choice depends on your interests, skills, and lifestyle preferences. Here’s a comparison to help you decide
Train Driver (Locomotive Engineer)

Pros:
✔ More predictable schedule – Often fixed routes with regular hours (though some may work nights/weekends).
✔ Lower stress – No turbulence, less extreme weather impact, and simpler navigation.
✔ Less training required – Certification is faster and less expensive than pilot training.
✔ Ground-based work – You’re always on land, which some prefer over flying.
✔ Job stability – Rail transport is essential for freight/passengers in many regions.

Cons:
✖ Limited career growth – Fewer advancement opportunities beyond senior driver roles.
✖ Repetitive routes – May drive the same tracks repeatedly.
✖ Lower pay (in some regions) – Generally earns less than pilots.
Pilot (Airline/Commercial)

Pros:
✔ Higher salary – Pilots, especially in airlines, earn significantly more on average.
✔ Travel opportunities – Explore different cities/countries, especially with international airlines.
✔ Prestige & excitement – Flying is seen as a glamorous and dynamic career.
✔ Career progression – Can advance from small planes to major airlines (First Officer → Captain).

Cons:
✖ Intensive training & cost – Requires expensive flight school (₹20-50 lakhs in India) and many flight hours.
✖ High stress & responsibility – Managing emergencies, weather, and passenger safety.
✖ Irregular schedule – Long hours, overnight layovers, and time away from home.
✖ Medical requirements – Strict health checks (Class 1 Medical Certificate).
Which is Best for You?

Choose train driver if you prefer stability, predictable work, and staying grounded.

Choose pilot if you love flying, seek higher pay, and don’t mind intense training and travel.

Both jobs are rewarding—pick the one that matches your passion and lifestyle!
Key Differences in Norway

FactorTrain DriverPilotSalary500K–700K NOK800K–1.5M NOKTraining CostLow (state-subsidized)Very High (1–2M NOK)Job SecurityHigh (govt. rail)Moderate (aviation crises risk)AdventureScenic but groundedGlobal travel & flying
Which is Best in Norway?


  • Pick Train Driver if you want stability, great pay, and love Norway’s landscapes.
  • Pick Pilot if you dream of flying, earn top-tier salaries, and handle high-pressure jobs.
Norway’s Bonus: Both jobs have strong unions, excellent benefits, and respect for workers’ rights.
Would you like details on specific employers (e.g., Vy, SAS) or training schools? ��✈️
 
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Om noen har innsikt: hva er forskjellene på å være pilot og lokfører - sett bort fra det helt åpenbare? Hva krever mest?

Veldig mye. Jeg vil kanskje si at det eneste de har til felles er at både fly og tog er transportmidler, i tillegg til at begge kan ha sin solide dose ukurante arbeidstider.

En forskjell er, for eksempel, at det er veldig mye mer åpenhet rundt hva lokførere tjener:
https://www.lokmann.no/overenskomst-og-avtaler/
 
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