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Old 12-06-2018, 11:18   #61
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Default Re: Boeing vurderer ny 757/767? -> NMA/MoM

Lufthansasjefen har i et nylig intervju sagt han ikke ser for seg den kommende "797" vil være tilgjengelig før i 2028
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Old 27-06-2018, 13:02   #62
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Definitivt et steg nærmere en nytt fly når motorprodusentene har blitt bedt om å levere sine forslag til Boeing

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The trio of largest engine makers has a June 27 deadline to respond to Boeing’s formal request for proposals (RFP) to power the aircraft that will eventually become its 797, according to three people familiar with the plans.
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Delta har VELDIG lyst på dette flyet ....

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Delta har VELDIG lyst på dette flyet ....

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Ja, så lenge Boeing klarer bygge det billig nok, og ikke «over-bygge» det
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Bak betalingsmur, men Leehamnews har en artikkel hvor de mistenker at Boeing sliter litt med business caset her. Ikke at flyet ikke kommer, men at det er en større nøtt å knekke enn hva Boeing innrømmer offentlig.

Litt spøkefullt kaller de den The Muddle of the Market


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- Boeing’s been talking about the MOM for six years—an extraordinarily long time.
- The aircraft evolved from a 757 replacement to a 767 replacement—something the 787 was billed to be.
- The business case remains unclear.
- The Airplane definition is still a matter of debate.
- The MOM was defined by Boeing as above the 737-9 and below the 787-8—but now there’s the 737-10 at the small end, for capacity, and renewed interest in the 787-8 at the upper end.
- Airbus is pushing the A321LR and nearing a decision whether to proceed with the A321XLR.
- Engine makers remain cool to the NMA.
- The supply chain is unenthused about the NMA because Boeing wants to capture the aftermarket and hold the intellectual property rights.
- The supply chain is in melt-down
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Leasinglegenden Steven Udvar-Hazy forventer Boeing vil ta en avgjørelse om 797/MoM/NMA eller hva man nå skal kalle det, mot midten av 2019

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Air Lease’s executive chairman Steven Udvar-Hazy says that Boeing could make a decision on whether or not launch the 797 model mid-year 2019
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Old 20-11-2018, 00:43   #67
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I følge Airlinerwatch skal Boeing lansere 797 på Paris Airshow 2019.

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I følge Airlinerwatch skal Boeing lansere 797 på Paris Airshow 2019.

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Hmmmm, går det mot ennå en utsettelse og vi snakker nå 2020 for offisiell launch?

Ser ut som Boeing fortsatt sliter litt både med konseptet og business caset her

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...meline-455456/

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But on 30 January Boeing chief executive Dennis Muilenburg reset those expectations. This year's decision will be whether to "offer" the NMA, he specified. That means Boeing can wrangle up launch customers.

The actual launch decision will come in 2020, assuming the company's board of directors approves the offer decision, Muilenburg says.
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Kommende NMA/797, blir i hvertfall ikke med Rolls-Royce motorer

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Rolls-Royce has pulled out of the competition to develop an engine for Boeing’s proposed New Mid-size Airplane.
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Leehamnews her hakket mer tvilende på om Boeing faktisk ender opp med å lansere flyet

https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/04/po...ch/#more-29544

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Leehamnews her hakket mer tvilende på om Boeing faktisk ender opp med å lansere flyet

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Jeg og.
Det verden og Boeing trenger er en 737 erstatter i carbon, som reduserer forbruket med ca20% i forhold til de modellene de erstatter. 757 dekket jo dette MOM. Med en ny 737 erstatter som leveres i varianter opp til tilsvarende 757-300 vil man kunne dekke alt fra 150 til 280 seter. Over 280 seter vil 787-8 dekke markedet
Hvorfor skal Boeing utvikle 2 maskiner, når de kan utvikle 1
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I siste kvartalspresentasjon, mellom at pratet om MAX og dens problemer, framstod Boeingsjefen langt mer defensiv på tidslinjen for lommene 797/NMA/MoM eller hva nå flyet skal hete. Naturligvis har ikke dette første prioritet om dagen men virker som alt er utsatt, både eventuel lansering og såkalt «authority to offer», det vil si Boeing starter å selge flyet for å samle nok ordre til at de kan lansere modellen

Og jo lenger tid som går jo senere kommer flyet i luften
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Nå er Delta utålmodige .. de ser vel muligheten til å få en gigantrabatt ... Men Boeing har vel ikke så mye ressurser å sette inn på dette akkurat nå ..

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I do anticipate they will do it. I hope they will do it. We have a significant need between the retirements of the 757 and 767 fleets. That’s almost 200 aircraft over the next decade.
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Nå er Delta utålmodige .. de ser vel muligheten til å få en gigantrabatt ... Men Boeing har vel ikke så mye ressurser å sette inn på dette akkurat nå ..
I følge er artikkel hos Leeham (bak betalingsmur, så ser bare sammendraget) så er det tvilsomt om det blir lansert noen "NMA" i løpet av 2020, om den faktisk blir lansert i det hele tatt, så da hjelper det lite om flyselskapene er utålmodige. Så da må de heller ringe et nummer som begynner på +33 og si bonjour
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I følge er artikkel hos Leeham (bak betalingsmur, så ser bare sammendraget) så er det tvilsomt om det blir lansert noen "NMA" i løpet av 2020, om den faktisk blir lansert i det hele tatt, så da hjelper det lite om flyselskapene er utålmodige. Så da må de heller ringe et nummer som begynner på +33 og si bonjour
Tror ikke Delta sier neitakk til en 767NG heller ...
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Tror ikke Delta sier neitakk til en 767NG heller ...


De trenger jo ikke å finne opp hjulet på nytt, så hvorfor ikke en NG i karbon fiber? De frykter kanskje svint i salget på 787?
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De trenger jo ikke å finne opp hjulet på nytt, så hvorfor ikke en NG i karbon fiber? De frykter kanskje svint i salget på 787?
Kanskje fordi de har funnet ut at karbonfiber er veldig dyrt å lage fly av og egentlig totalt sett ikke sparer så mye vekt? Tenker da flykroppen og ikke vingene
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Anna Aero med noen interessante tall om 767 og transatlantiske flyvninger.

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Tilbake til start?

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Boeing Co’s (BA.N) new chief executive has sent the aerospace giant back to the drawing board on proposals for a new mid-market aircraft, effectively shelving in their current form plans worth $15 billion-$20 billion that had been overtaken by the 737 MAX crisis.
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“We’re going to start with a clean sheet of paper again; I’m looking forward to that,” Calhoun said.
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Boeing bør vel snarest plukke opp NSA (New Small Airplane) planene de holdt på med før panikk-programmet kjent som 737MAX kom...
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