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Old 20-03-2019, 16:59   #101
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Runaway stabilizer check list (trim som er ute av kontroll) har punkter som pilotene skal huske uten å slå opp i sjekklisten...

Av 8 punkter er det de 5 første man skal huske. Blant annet det å kutte strømmen til trimsystemet.
Ja, enig der, det er enkle greier, tar 2 sekunder å slå av strømmen til trim systemet, har trent på det i 30 år på alle Boeing flyene, aner ikke hvorfor det plutselig er tabu å si dem skulle gjort det.
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Old 20-03-2019, 17:19   #102
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Runaway stabilizer check list (trim som er ute av kontroll) har punkter som pilotene skal huske uten å slå opp i sjekklisten...

Av 8 punkter er det de 5 første man skal huske. Blant annet det å kutte strømmen til trimsystemet.
Skal ta en litt banal sammenligning.
Jeg er ute og kjører bil, og har adaptiv cruise control som følger bilen foran. Vi kommer til en rundkjøring, og mitt kamera mister da bilen foran som svinger først høyre og så venstre. Bilen min begynner så å akselerere frem mot rundkjøringen i stedet for å bremse. Trenger jeg å slå opp i en maunal??
Nei. Fungerer ikke automatikken slik jeg vil og forventer, så skrur jeg den selvsagt av i løpet av et sekund. Jeg klarer utmerket godt å håndtere transportmiddelet uten automatikk. Jeg forventer at piloter gjør det samme. Man trenger ikke ha ekstremt dyptpløyende kunnskap til et system for å skru det av når det ikke oppfører seg som forventet.

Selvsagt er ikke en bil det samme som et fly, jeg er fullt klar over det.
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Old 20-03-2019, 21:45   #103
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En haikende pilot hindret en styrt dagen før Lion Air-styrten:
https://www.nrk.no/urix/haikende-pil...ofe-1.14481371
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Old 26-09-2019, 15:44   #104
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Uten å påta seg noe skyld eller ansvar har Boeing inngått forlik med de første etterlatte etter Lionair-ulykken som hadde saksøkt Boeing. Forliket for de 11 første var på $1,2 millioner per passasjer

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Boeing Co has settled the first claims stemming from the crash of a Lion Air 737 MAX in Indonesia, a U.S. plaintiffs’ lawyer said, and three other sources said that families of those killed will receive at least $1.2 million apiece
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Old 25-10-2019, 18:35   #105
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Final report fra Indonesiske myndigheter, 322 sider.

http://knkt.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_a...l%20Report.pdf
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Noen som kan ta en kjapp oppsummering?
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The accident had been caused by a complex chain of events, Indonesian air accident investigator Nurcahyo Utomo told reporters at a news conference, repeatedly declining to be drawn on providing a single dominant cause.
"From what we know, there are nine things that contributed to this accident," he said. "If one of the nine hadn't occurred, maybe the accident wouldn't have occurred."

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FAA skal ha inndratt lisensen til dem amerikanske selskapet som skal ha reparert AoA sensoren på Lionair maskinen

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ed-737-461804/

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The US Federal Aviation Administration has revoked the aircraft repair station licence held by Xtra Aerospace, the Florida shop that repaired the angle-of-attack (AOA) indicator investigators say contributed to the 2018 crash of a Lion Air Boeing 737 Max.
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Del 1 av Leehams Bjørn sin analyse av JT610

Kort sagt handler det trolig om hvordan flere feil i vedlikeholdet bidro til sensorfeil, som "lurer" MCAS. I motsetning til kanskje Ethiopian hvor man lurer på om det kan være birdstrike involvert (men ikke konkludert)

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We start the series on analyzing the Lion Air 737 MAX crash by looking at what went wrong in the aircraft. It’s important to understand MCAS is not part of what went wrong. It worked as designed during all seven Lion Air flights we will analyze in this series.
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Old 25-11-2019, 00:46   #110
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Nedslående lesning.


"At the Bali airport, a vane, known as an angle of attack sensor, was replaced.
Crash investigators were presented with photographs supposedly showing that a mandatory test was done after the vane had been replaced. But upon further inspection, investigators concluded the photos were from a different aircraft."

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