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RF-4E_348_MTA
14-12-2019, 20:47
Hello,
a short question only:
Was OY-KGT delivered as a MD-81 or was it from the beginning a MD-82?
Regards
Marcus
raider66
14-12-2019, 21:17
According to the book "Luftens vikingar - en bok om SAS alle flygplan" (Åker Hall) OY-KGT was delivered to SAS as a srs -81 and accepted 10.10.85. Konvertert til MD82 19.03.93.
Espen
Intressant är att dokumentationen om OY-KGT säger conv. -82 19.03.93 men skylten ombord 24.03.93.
RF-4E_348_MTA
15-12-2019, 20:43
According to the book "Luftens vikingar - en bok om SAS alle flygplan" (Åker Hall) OY-KGT was delivered to SAS as a srs -81 and accepted 10.10.85. Konvertert til MD82 19.03.93.
Espen
Thank you very much!
I don' t remember if I have the book …
If yes, it would be in Sweden.
Would it be to much work to ask you for a list of the SAS MD-81?
Absolutely no problem, if you don't have the time to do it! I understand it full ;)
There are several databases out there .. airfleets, planespotters ... but also this.
http://www.hilmerby.com/fleet/md80.html
RF-4E_348_MTA
15-12-2019, 22:51
Thanks for the link! I didn't know it.
Planespotters, airfleets, etc, don't have all the MD-81/82 data correct … ;)
For example, OY-KGT is in most databases mentioned as MD-82.
raider66
15-12-2019, 23:02
Hello Marcus. According to the book the following MD-81 were operated by SAS:
OY-KGT (first aircraft delivered)
OY-KGZ
LN-RLE
OY-KGY
SE-DFR
OY-KHC
SE-DFY
LN-RMA
SE-DIA
OY-KHG
SE-DII
OY-KHK
OY-KHL
LN-RMJ
SE-DIL
OY-KHM
SE-DIX
SE-DIN
OY-KHN
OY-KHS
LN-RML
OY-KHO
SE-DIR
LN-RMM
SE-DIS
OY-KHP
SE-DIY
OY-KHR
SE-DMB
LN-RMO
SE-DMD
LN-RMR
SE-DME
LN-RMS
Several were converted to -82 standard.
Espen
raider66
15-12-2019, 23:08
And the following ex Swissair DC-9-81 were also operated by SAS:
SE-DMX ex HB-INC
SE-DMT ex HB-IND
OY-KIK ex HB-INE
SE-DMU ex HB-INF
OY-KIG ex HB-ING
OY-KIH ex HB-INH
OY-KII ex HB-INI
SE-DMZ ex HB-INK
SE-DMY ex HB-INL
Espen
Thanks for the link! I didn't know it.
Planespotters, airfleets, etc, don't have all the MD-81/82 data correct … ;)
For example, OY-KGT is in most databases mentioned as MD-82.
Serveral, if not all, that were sold to Allegiant, were converted to -83 before delivery.
RF-4E_348_MTA
15-12-2019, 23:21
Thanks a lot Espen :)
I have also LN-ROM (ex SE-DIY) as MD-81 before converted to MD-82
and
SE-DFV as MD-81 (later SE-DFR as MD-82).
Andreas, I suppose, they were not flown by SAS after their conversion to MD-83s, correct?
RF-4E_348_MTA
15-12-2019, 23:26
Converted to MD-82, I have the following:
LN-RMT (ex OY-KHS)
LN-ROM (ex SE-DIY)
LN-RON (ex SE-DMD)
LN-ROO (ex SE-DME)
OY-KHP
SE-DFR (ex SE-DFV)
SE-DII
SE-DMB
Andreas, I suppose, they were not flown by SAS after their conversion to MD-83s, correct?
Not revenue. Not sure where the conversion was done. If it was done in Oslo, they would have flown as -83 on the ferryflight to USA. On SK flightnummber. Espan might know.
Fellowship
15-12-2019, 23:32
Thanks a lot Espen :)
I have also LN-ROM (ex SE-DIY) as MD-81 before converted to MD-82
and
SE-DFV as MD-81 (later SE-DFR as MD-82).
Andreas, I suppose, they were not flown by SAS after their conversion to MD-83s, correct?
The registration of SE-DFV was changed to SE-DFR before the aircraft went into service as a MD-81.
And yes, conversions to MD-83s was after they left SAS.
SAS had orginally two MD-83s, LN-RMB and LN-RMF
Try to search these aricraft at http://www.airpics.com, I beleive this databse is correct updated on the SAS fleet.
SAS had orginally two MD-83s, LN-RMB and LN-RMF
I logged LN-RMB (As MD-83) on a flight in November 1990, so RMB was in the fleet as an -83 at that time, but it’s not included in the list linked at post #5?
This table might be of interest although it perhaps is not complete, dates converted to -82 are from SAS , dates within (...) are from actual sightings on the plate in respective aircraft:
OY-KGT 19.3.93 (24.3.93)
OY-KGZ 28.1.06
LN-RLE 9.3.93 (6.3.93)
OY-KGY missing
LN-ROT 18.3.97 (18.3.97)
OY-KHC 19.3.97 (19.3.97)
LN-ROW 19.3.97
LN-ROX 20.3.97 (20.3.97)
OY-KHG 19.3.97
LN-RMC 18.3.97
SE-DIL 19.3.97
OY-KHM 11.7.01
SE-DIN 19.3.97
OY-KHN 12.04
LN-RMT 2.2.05
LN-RML 20.3.97
SE-DIR 25.5.05 (25.5.05)
LN-RMM 11.7.01
SE-DIS 12.6.05
LN-ROM 4.06
OY-KHR missing
LN-RMO 2.2.05 (5.7.05)
LN-RON 28.1.06 (16.1.06)
LN-RMR 12.04
LN-ROO 20.1.06
LN-RMS 12.04 (9.12.04)
SE-DMB 12.7.09
OY-KHP 19.6.09
I logged LN-RMB (As MD-83) on a flight in November 1990, so RMB was in the fleet as an -83 at that time, but it’s not included in the list linked at post #5?
Jodå, visst är den med i listan...:
SE-DPI Balder Viking 49557 1436 10 FEB 88 Ex. LN-RMB
raider66
16-12-2019, 18:23
Converted to MD-82, I have the following:
LN-RMT (ex OY-KHS)
LN-ROM (ex SE-DIY)
LN-RON (ex SE-DMD)
LN-ROO (ex SE-DME)
OY-KHP
SE-DFR (ex SE-DFV)
SE-DII
SE-DMB
According to the book the following aircraft were converted to -82 standard:
OY-KGT
LN-RLE
SE-DFR/LN-ROT
OY-KHC
SE-DFY/LN-ROW
LN-RMA
SE-DIA/LN-ROX
OY-KHG
SE-DII
OY-KHK
OY-KHL
LN-RMJ
SE-DIL
OY-KHM
SE-DIX
SE-DIN
LN-RML
LN-RMM
Espen
raider66
16-12-2019, 18:27
I logged LN-RMB (As MD-83) on a flight in November 1990, so RMB was in the fleet as an -83 at that time, but it’s not included in the list linked at post #5?
LN-RMF og LN-RMB/SE-DPI ble levert som -83 og derfor aldri konvertert.
Espen
According to the book the following aircraft were converted to -82 standard:
OY-KGT
LN-RLE
SE-DFR/LN-ROT
OY-KHC
SE-DFY/LN-ROW
LN-RMA
SE-DIA/LN-ROX
OY-KHG
SE-DII
OY-KHK
OY-KHL
LN-RMJ
SE-DIL
OY-KHM
SE-DIX
SE-DIN
LN-RML
LN-RMM
Espen
Och boken kom ju 2002 så du hittar fler på min förteckning som konverterades senare.
RF-4E_348_MTA
16-12-2019, 21:21
Dear Andreas, Espen, Ole and Ralf,
thank you very much for all your invaluable help!!!
By the way, Planespotters.net has also SE-DHF MD-83 (ex Transwede and Blue Scandinavia) as operated by SAS between May-September 2012 and SE-RJH MD-82 between May 2012-March 2013. Did they ever flew in SAS-colors or only as Spanair?
Fellowship
16-12-2019, 23:34
Dear Andreas, Espen, Ole and Ralf,
thank you very much for all your invaluable help!!!
By the way, Planespotters.net has also SE-DHF MD-83 (ex Transwede and Blue Scandinavia) as operated by SAS between May-September 2012 and SE-RJH MD-82 between May 2012-March 2013. Did they ever flew in SAS-colors or only as Spanair?
Both were only taken over by SAS after Spanair ceased operations, and neither of them flew for SAS.
RF-4E_348_MTA
17-12-2019, 07:41
Thank you, Ole :)
This table might be of interest although it perhaps is not complete, dates converted to -82 are from SAS , dates within (...) are from actual sightings on the plate in respective aircraft:
OY-KGT 19.3.93 (24.3.93)
OY-KGZ 28.1.06
LN-RLE 9.3.93 (6.3.93)
OY-KGY missing
LN-ROT 18.3.97 (18.3.97)
OY-KHC 19.3.97 (19.3.97)
LN-ROW 19.3.97
LN-ROX 20.3.97 (20.3.97)
OY-KHG 19.3.97
LN-RMC 18.3.97
SE-DIL 19.3.97
OY-KHM 11.7.01
SE-DIN 19.3.97
OY-KHN 12.04
LN-RMT 2.2.05
LN-RML 20.3.97
SE-DIR 25.5.05 (25.5.05)
LN-RMM 11.7.01
SE-DIS 12.6.05
LN-ROM 4.06
OY-KHR missing
LN-RMO 2.2.05 (5.7.05)
LN-RON 28.1.06 (16.1.06)
LN-RMR 12.04
LN-ROO 20.1.06
LN-RMS 12.04 (9.12.04)
SE-DMB 12.7.09
OY-KHP 19.6.09
As mentioned a few more were converted from -81 to -82, conversion dates from "Luftens Vingar" are: OY-KHK 11.7.01 , OY-KHL 11.7.01 , LN-RMJ 19.3.97 , SE-DIX 20.3.97 and LN-RMA 20.3.97. OY-KHO which crashed at Gottröra was never converted, crashed as a -81.
RF-4E_348_MTA
29-12-2019, 17:49
Thanks Rolf!
Wish you a wonderfull 2020 :)
Har jeg forstått det riktig at ex-SAS SE-DME startet som en MD-81 i 1992, ble konvertert til MD-82 i 2005 og så til MD-83 i 2010?
Har jeg forstått det riktig at ex-SAS SE-DME startet som en MD-81 i 1992, ble konvertert til MD-82 i 2005 og så til MD-83 i 2010?
Stämmer , date of manufacture 5 maj 1992 , levererad som -81 till SAS , konverterad 20 januari 2006 till -82 och konverterad till -83 efter leverans till USA
Takker! Anvendelig fly :)